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nn-/no-wiktionary[endre]

Heisann!

Ser du har jobbet en del mer her, og lurte litt på hva du synes om nn.wiktionary.org vs. no.wiktionary.org, mht. til nynorsken. De fleste som arbeider der nå for tiden bruker nok mest bokmål, men vi er åpne for begge og i alle fall jeg liker tanken om å utvikle ordbok for begge målformer. Hva tror du? Mewasul 12. august 2010 kl. 10:15 (CEST)

Hei. Etter å ha tenkt litt meir på problemstillinga (det har jo vore oppe før) tenkjer eg at det er best for nynorsken å ha si eiga wikiordbok (det er best for båe språka, men det bør jo ikkje vera nokon tvil om kven som merkar samanblandinga best ;-)). Ikkje berre er eg redd for at nynorske definisjonar vil avgrensa seg for det meste til einstaka nynorskord, men i tillegg set språkkoden 'no' brukargrensesnittet til bokmål for alle som les nettstaden uinnlogga. Det er ikkje den heilt store aktiviteten her, men gjennom å få opp grunnleggjande infrastruktur håpar eg å ha fått gjort terskelen for å bidra her noko lågare. I alle høve er det ikkje like viktig med ei aktiv brukargruppa på Wiktionary som på Wikipedia, sidan det å halda oppslaga oppdaterte her som regel vil krevja ein mindre innsats. --Harald Khan Ճ 12. august 2010 kl. 12:10 (CEST)
Jeg skjønner, og det vil klart være lettere for oss å holde oss til bokmål også. Et spørsmål til: Hvordan synes du at skillet mellom nynorsk og bokmål bør være på no-wikt (og kanskje her på nn-wikt også), med tanke på selve oppslaga? Nåværende løsning er å føre opp alle under norsk, andre språk har (kanskje forståelig) språkskille mellom bokmål og nynorsk, anser disse som helt forskjellige språk. (Og beklager sent svar!) Mewasul 17. august 2010 kl. 10:46 (CEST)
Løysinga som ein nyttar på no-wikt ser ut til å vera den same som ein nyttar på engelsk; altso at ein kan føra opp ord som er sams under «norsk», og ord som er unike under anten «bokmål» eller «nynorsk» (sjå t.d. en:båt og en:ramn). Eg eg ikkje heilt samd med meg sjølv om kva som er beste metoden, men her på nn-wikt føler eg i alle fall at det er mest tenleg å føra bokmål og nynorsk opp separat (sjå t.d. hjarta og hjerte), medan eg på en-wikt stør opp om «halvdelinga». --Harald Khan Ճ 17. august 2010 kl. 12:29 (CEST)
Høres greit ut. En liten ting til - er det et bevisst valg å bruke Kategori:Bokmålske verb, Kategori:Engelske substantiv etc. fremfor verb i bokmål, substantiv i engelsk? Vi har siste formen som standard på no, og unngår med det i alle fall formuleringer som bokmålsk. Mewasul 18. august 2010 kl. 08:27 (CEST)
Eg ynskjer i alle fall å ha kategoriane på forma <språkadjektiv> <ordklasse>. Det heiter no Bokmålssubstantiv etc.; det finst ein del språknamn (t.d. norrønt) som ein er nøydd til å leggja inn unntak for i bøy-malen (infl) om ein vel å ha denne forma. Samstundes lèt eg opphavsmalen (etyl) sorterta orda slik Ord i <språknamn 1> med opphav i <språknamn 2>. --Harald Khan Ճ 18. august 2010 kl. 11:50 (CEST)

Question[endre]

Hi. In ცხვირი, shouldn't it be "Georgiske substantiv", like other categories around? Malafaya (diskusjon) 22. april 2012 kl. 17:22 (CEST)

Namnord ('name word') = substantiv. I initially used "substantiv", but later felt like using "namnord". I haven't applied this to the existing categories yet, but since the relevant categorisation is automatic, it can wait. It makes more sense to make a more final decision when the categories actually have words in them. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 22. april 2012 kl. 19:08 (CEST)
Ok, thanks. Don't forget to move interwikis to the new categories later. BTW, could you create that one I mentioned above (Category:Georgiske namnord)? Malafaya (diskusjon) 23. april 2012 kl. 20:03 (CEST)
I'll get around to Kategori:Georgiske namnord eventually, I intend to fix all of the categories at once whenever I decide to do it. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 24. april 2012 kl. 15:04 (CEST)

Renaming[endre]

Hello. I'm sorry if this is not the right place to request it, but I request renaming my following accounts:

  • محمد الجداوي → Avocato
  • GedawyBot → AvocatoBot
  • Confirmation link: [1]
  • Reason: Privacy reasons

Please, delete all my userpages and talk pages of these accounts before renaming and I will create them later .Thanks in advance.--M.Gedawy 15. juli 2012 kl. 15:54 (CEST)

Should be done now. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 15. juli 2012 kl. 20:55 (CEST)

request for botflag[endre]

Hello Njardarlogar,

I hereby request the Bot flag for User:YS-Bot for the following purpose: Interwiki. I work with the latest version of pywikipedia/interwiki.py. The bot does ignore redirects and delete deadlinks. If you need some test edits, just tell me. I didn't find an other place for this request. Best regards --Yoursmile (diskusjon)

We do have WT:Bots, but nevermind. Yes, do make some test edits (e.g. 10-20). You should also introduce some interwiki on your bot's user page. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 10:14 (CEST)
I made 5 test edits. The warnfile doesn't contain more interwiki-links to the nn.wikt yet. Hope thats enough for the moment. I added some interwiki on my bot's user page. Best regards --Yoursmile (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 10:58 (CEST)
I have never run an interwiki bot on Wiktionary (only on Wikipedia), but if you use the -new: option, you should get many new edits as I most recently created thousands of entries with my own bot. If you try: -new:20 with -lang:nn, you'll probably get 20 new edits here. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 11:26 (CEST)
I don't want to run this command, because the bot adds interwikis at other wiktionarys, too. Thats bad, cause i startet requesting botflag yesterday. Maybe you can take a look on the test edits on other wiktionarys (e.g. en, fr, zh). Best regards --Yoursmile (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 12:13 (CEST)
Another possibility is to also include the argument -localonly, which together with -lang:nn will mean that the bot will only edit pages here on nn.wikt. You can also open user-config.py and put a # in front of the wiktionaries that you do not want to edit on. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 12:17 (CEST)

OK, that seems fine. Flag granted. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 12:54 (CEST)

Many thanks! Have a nice day --Yoursmile (diskusjon) 12. august 2012 kl. 12:57 (CEST)

New categories[endre]

Hi, Njardarlogar.

Everything ok with the categories I created today? Malafaya (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 16:53 (CEST)

Yeah, they seem quite fine. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 16:59 (CEST)
Thanks. I'll continue creating "well-known" categories with "well-known" contents. In case I make some mistake, please do warn me. Malafaya (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 17:22 (CEST)
Ok, will do. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 17:26 (CEST)

Shouldn't ჭიანჭველა be in a category Kategori:ka:Insekter or something like that? Malafaya (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 19:53 (CEST)

Yes. I sometimes don't bother with the topical categories and focus on the meanings instead in order to be more efficient. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 21:54 (CEST)
Understandable. How will it work? Will "Insekt" eventually be supported by Mal:emnekat? Malafaya (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 22:21 (CEST)
Yeah, {{emnekat}} should be used wherever en:Template:topic cat is used on the English Wiktionary. All the subtemplates for the parent categories have to be created manually, and I haven't created too many of those yet. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 22. august 2012 kl. 23:08 (CEST)

I still didn't understand how topic cats will work for Nynorsk. I found examples of categories with nn: prefix and without: see april (without) and Sør-Sudan (with). Which one is to prevail? Malafaya (diskusjon) 24. august 2012 kl. 18:23 (CEST)

The nn: ones are the correct. The other ones are old. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 24. august 2012 kl. 21:22 (CEST)
დიდი მადლობა. There are may eignnamn categories to create but I could find no example. Would you mind creating the first? I suppose they will be similar to namnord, but they could also be inside the respective namnord category, so I don't know. Malafaya (diskusjon) 25. august 2012 kl. 13:22 (CEST)
I typically follow the setup on the English Wiktionary on most things. Created an example now with Kategori:Nynorske eigennamn. Njardarlogar (diskusjon) 25. august 2012 kl. 20:30 (CEST)

Forced user renames coming soon for SUL[endre]

Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 3. mai 2013 kl. 18:58 (CEST)

Forced user renames coming soon for SUL[endre]

Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 3. mai 2013 kl. 18:58 (CEST)

An important message about renaming users[endre]

Dear Njardarlogar, My aplogies for writing in English. Please translate or have this translated for you if it will help. I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 25. august 2014 kl. 20:24 (CEST)

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